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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Aug 31, 2018 8:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead & Co.

Musically, D&C don't suck any more than the real deal did from 85 onward - and that's being generous. Sloppy, poorly mixed, in and out of tempo, forgotten lyrics, off key, and vocals that sounded like my grandmother calling the cat. Each and every member of the band took turns at sucking the worst too, although some did it on a regular basis more than others...It's right here in the Archives, and all you need to do is listen with just a little objectivity. And face it, some of us can't.

BUT. Since both the Grateful Dead and any other "tribute band" have been musically absent for the last 30 years, there must be more to it than simply what we can hear. Millions of people have been suckered into handing over their lunch money to be engaged in events that by all standards are extraordinary. Sometimes lame, but always extraordinary.

At the end of the day, it's much bigger than our poor opinions can mouth. if you're hoping to hear the Grateful Dead in their prime, that train left the station decades ago. if you're looking to party with a few thousand of your closest friends that's a hole 'nother thing. Finally, if you think that magic can be put in a digital bottle and played over your fuckin' laptop - you be delusional....when the music sucks, it sucks.

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Poster: Daddy D Date: Sep 1, 2018 6:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead & Co.

"Musically, D&C don't suck any more than the real deal did from 85 onward - and that's being generous. Sloppy, poorly mixed, in and out of tempo, forgotten lyrics, off key, and vocals that sounded like my grandmother calling the cat. Each and every member of the band took turns at sucking the worst too, although some did it on a regular basis more than others...It's right here in the Archives, and all you need to do is listen with just a little objectivity. And face it, some of us can't."

Surely you jest Earl? Respectfully I could not not disagree more.

While I could post links to numerous shows which would (IMO!) prove my point, for your listening pleasure I will start with my very first show. The whole show is great, but the Morning Dew is simply transcendent:

https://archive.org/details/gd1987-09-18.137535.sbd.miller.flac16/16MorningDew.flac

Seeing this show at 18 yrs old, flying high on psychedelic chicklets was, without a doubt, a life-changing event for me.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Sep 1, 2018 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead & Co.

I gave a listen to Dew as was cued up, and it displays everything I pointed out except maybe the flubbed vocals. I couldn't listen all the way through. It's not really necessary for me to dissect it, but it suffers through the same malaise that's present on many of the latter years shows. Mickey Hart couldn't keep time if he had a Rolex strapped to his sticks. Garcia veers off key in his vocals, and his guitar work is lacking. The band, in general, lumbers along with the fleet footed pace of an iceberg.

I understand the "I was there" situation and that proves my point about objective listening. It also shows we all have a "frame of reference" which we build our subjective experience around. My frame of reference are shows I attended between '71 and '78, so anything before or after is lacking in my subjective opinion.

It doesn't make you or me wrong, it just makes us biased.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 31, 2018 2:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead & Co.

Hey, like tone it down, Dude; people are going to figure out we're the same poster...

You do know I have this paragraph copyrighted, eh?

"Musically, D&C don't suck any more than the real deal did from 85 onward - and that's being generous. Sloppy, poorly mixed, in and out of tempo, forgotten lyrics, off key, and vocals that sounded like my grandmother calling the cat. Each and every member of the band took turns at sucking the worst too, although some did it on a regular basis more than others...It's right here in the Archives, and all you need to do is listen with just a little objectivity. And face it, some of us can't. "